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02/26/2008

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aikibrewer

I can guess how you felt on seeing all the "anti-terrorist" fortifications that have gone up around the mall...

Ted

Not sure this is the right analogy. You were a student, in a public school. You stood up for your right to basically be free from coercion. Nicely done - free speech was about being free.

Obama is different. He wants our votes. He's perfectly free to wear a pin or not (free speech is free), but we're also free to use this as a data point on how he ticks.

So what Obama is asking for is free speech = speech free from consequences. Doesn't work that way, especially when you're running for leader of the free world. Don't believe me, ask the Dixie Chicks. They're not in jail (IOW, they have the right to free speech), but they have no careers (IOW, their fans also have the right to buy or not buy their CDs).

Mojo

Ted, He's not just claiming to have the right not to wear a pin, he's saying wearing the pin is irrelevant to patriotism. And I agree with him. I have never worn a flag lapel pin. Does that mean I'm unpatriotic even though I devoted a quarter century of my life to military service? Is somebody like Duke Cunningham, who wore a lapel pin regularly but betrayed the public trust, more patriotic than Obama or me?

ajay

Don't believe me, ask the Dixie Chicks. They're not in jail (IOW, they have the right to free speech), but they have no careers (IOW, their fans also have the right to buy or not buy their CDs).

Their first album after the furore went gold within a week and won five Grammy Awards. I wish my career failed like that.

Kingdaddy

So what Obama is asking for is free speech = speech free from consequences. Doesn't work that way, especially when you're running for leader of the free world. Don't believe me, ask the Dixie Chicks. They're not in jail (IOW, they have the right to free speech), but they have no careers (IOW, their fans also have the right to buy or not buy their CDs).

Why doesn't it "work that way?" Why should Obama have fewer rights than the rest of us? Why should anyone's patriotism be suspect because they don't want to wear a pin?

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